Log inRegister
- Forums
- Audio/Visual Club
- Thread starterANSDAC
- Start dateJun 13, 2008
Jump to latestFollowReply
- Status
- Not open for further replies.
More options
Who Replied?
A
ANSDAC
Ars Legatus Legionis
- 11,554
Jun 13, 2008
- Jun 13, 2008
- Add bookmark
- #1
Not sure if this goes in here or Software Colloquium, but here goes.<BR><BR>To go along with the shiny new front-end I've got in the works and the massive storage box I've got scheduled after that, I'd like some advice on the best way to rip DVDs into playable formats. Basically, I've got a whole lot of DVDs which I'd like to store on the back-end box and play over the network on the front-end on my TV. To do this, I've got to get the DVD content onto the back-end.<BR><BR>The DVDs are a mix of movies and TV shows. I'd like ot try to keep them in some sort of format which retains the chapters/scenes (for easy skipping around). The intended output is an NTSC TV, and the DVDs themselves are (almost entirely) NTSC, so we're not talking about terribly high resolution.<BR><BR>I don't really know anything about this sort of stuff (other than to go to Doom9), so I was hoping the Hive Mind might be kind enough to suggest both storage formats and the proper tools and procedures to accomplish that. I wouldn't be in any sort of rush, but efficiency would be nice.
More options
ReportAdd bookmarkShare
C
CUclimber
Ars Legatus Legionis
- 19,438
Subscriptor
Jun 13, 2008
- Jun 13, 2008
- Add bookmark
- #2
These days I think the easiest option is to just rip the DVDs as .ISO files and leave 'em as that. Don't re-encode them or anything, and choose a front-end that can handle the disc images as-is.
More options
ReportAdd bookmarkShare
O
Jun 13, 2008
- Jun 13, 2008
- Add bookmark
- #3
My solution, which after having tried damn near every method I have heard about I am quite satisfied with, is this:<BR>My gear: MacBook Pro, AppleTV<BR>1. Use AnyDVD/CloneDVD running under windows in Parallels for the ripping. Hands down the easist and most effective way to actually rip the DVDs and strip all the unwanted crap.<BR>2. Store the ripped files in a drive accessible by the Mac side.<BR>3. Use Handbrake and its "AppleTV" setting to convert to MP4. This setting allows preservation of chapters and now allows full 5.1 sound preservation as well. These were major sticking points for me before. I wanted no visible deterioration of the DVD experience. <BR>4. Stream through Itunes and AppleTV. Maybe I'm just not discerning enough visually, but I honestly can't tell any difference between the results this way and playing the DVD directly on an upscaling player. I like the fact that i can save some amount of storage space (movies come out to 1-2 GB usually at top quality, vs the 7-ish of a stored .ISO rip...). For reference, I watch on a 42" plasma screen.<BR>5. For stuff I already had in other formats, VisualHub has not encoutered anything it can't convert to the same AppleTV format...
More options
ReportAdd bookmarkShare
M
meglet
Ars Scholae Palatinae
- 1,447
Jun 13, 2008
- Jun 13, 2008
- Add bookmark
- #4
What front-end will you be using? If you've posted another thread I don't recall. <BR><BR>As for ripping, I use DVD-Decrypter or AnyDVD and do a direct copy of my DVDs and Blu-Rays to my media server (an 8+TB WHS box.) My front-end is a Vista HTPC, with MyMovies installed. <BR><BR>I found it easiest to install AnyDVD and the MyMovies backend/database on yet another computer, which has easy KVM and DVD-Rom access, in order to update it. <BR><BR>So the process is: Rip with AnyDVD>Copy to Media Server>Add rip to MyMovies>Launch MyMovies on HTPC and pick a movie. <BR><BR>This keeps all of the chapters and special features, as well as the quality. MyMovies integrates nicely with Vista (and XP MCE 2005, I've heard) although if you're using a different front-end OS then this post is not as helpful.
More options
ReportAdd bookmarkShare
S
Sagan :]
Ars Legatus Legionis
- 18,659
Subscriptor
Jun 13, 2008
- Jun 13, 2008
- Add bookmark
- #5
Even with the price of HD space these, ripping and leaving as iso files really isn't what I would recommend. I use AutoGK to compress to XVid, takes barely a few clicks and I put all my 2 hour movies at 800MB avis, and 44min TV shows at 375MB. I use pretty normal settings of 640 resulotion, VBR MP3... They play perfectly through my Xbox360 on the big screen (through the dashboard served from a WHS) or just on my PC. On my old 2.4GHz Core2, it compresses in about realtime, and I usually batch up like 15-20 at a time.<BR><BR>For TV shows, the key to making it easier to create a new folder for each episode (like Seaquest DSV S01E01, Seaquest DSV S01E02, etc) then rip the .ifo and .vob file for each episode into that folder (Make sure DVDDecrypter is in IFO mode for TV shows). The AutoGK will name the the resultant avi properly. Since the most tedious part is creating folders for each episode, I made a little .hta script to do that for me. <BR><BR>Save this as CreaeteFolders.hta and double click it. If you want to save to a different default folder, edit the \DVD Rips to what ever you want.<BR><pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
<html>
<head>
<title>Folder Creator for TV DVD Rips</title>
<HTA:APPLICATION
ID="ORFLogParser"
APPLICATIONNAME="Folder Creator for TV DVD Rips"
SCROLL="yes"
SINGLEINSTANCE="yes"
WINDOWSTATE="normal"
STATUSBAR="YES"
>
<style>
body { font-family: Helvetica; filterrogidXImageTransform.Microsoft.Gradient(GradientType=1, StartColorStr='#FFFFFF', EndColorStr='#EEEEEE') }
table { font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; }
.divSmallBorder { border:1px solid #D3D3D3; }
.header { font-family: Helvetica; color:white; font-size: 14pt; }
.button { font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 8pt; width: 40px; }
.ControlArea { font-size: 10pt; border-style:solid; border-width:1px; padding-left:4px; padding-right:4px; padding-top:1px; padding-bottom:1px; background-color:#FFFFFF }
.NavArea { font-size: 10pt; border-style:solid; border-width:1px; padding-left:4px; padding-right:4px; padding-top:1px; padding-bottom:1px; background-color:#FFFFFF }
.divHelpDisabled { color: lightgrey; font-size:7pt; }
.divHelpEnabled { color: blue; text-decoration:underline; font-size:7pt; }
.divDisabled { color: lightgrey; }
.DivEnabled { color: black; }
</style>
</head>
<script language="vbscript">
Const FOR_READING = 1
Const FOR_WRITING = 2
Function PadZeroes(intNumber)
If intNumber <= 9 Then
PadZeroes = "0" & CStr(intNumber)
Else
PadZeroes = CStr(intNumber)
End If
End Function
Sub DoCreateFolders
Output.InnerHTML = ""
Set objFSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
For i = 1 to Episodes.Value
strFolder = Root.Value & Series.Value & " S" & PadZeroes(Season.Value) & "E" & PadZeroes(i)
Set objFolder = objFSO.CreateFolder(strFolder)
Output.InnerHTML = Output.InnerHTML & strFolder & " created.<br />"
Next
End Sub
</script>
<body>
<div id="Input">
<table class="style1">
<tr>
<td>
Enter Root Folder:<br />
<input id="Root" type="text" size="50" value="\DVD Rips\"/><br />
Enter Series Name:<br />
<input id="Series" type="text" size="50" /><br />
Enter Season Number:<br />
<input id="Season" type="text" /><br />
Enter Number of Episodes:<br />
<input id="Episodes" type="text" /><br />
<input id="Submit" type="button" value="Create Folders" onClick="DoCreateFolders" /></td>
<td>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>
<div id="Output">
</div>
</body>
</html>
</pre>
More options
ReportAdd bookmarkShare
A
arsbernard
Ars Legatus Legionis
- 11,797
Jun 13, 2008
- Jun 13, 2008
- Add bookmark
- #6
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I use AutoGK to compress to XVid, takes barely a few clicks and I put all my 2 hour movies at 800MB avis, and 44min TV shows at 375MB. I use pretty normal settings of 640 resulotion, VBR MP3. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>2-pass encoding/VBR audio gets attention because it was once needed to fit a movie onto a CD or save a little file transfer time. However I don't believe the setting used to save a few bytes are appropriate for dvd encoding for home use. Constant quality encoding (Q3) and CBR MP3's will produce better quality and more compatible AVI's at the cost of only 10-20% larger file. (900MB per 2hr movie instead of 800MB). <BR><BR>If you ever need to re-create a DVD from the avi (say to give a relative an episode), vbr mp3 in an avi container will cause some encoders (TMPEG) to ignore the audio or cause others to have audio sync problems. 224kbs CBR mp3 only takes a few dozen megs extra over a 128 VBR. Considering the video is going be 800-1Gig in size it's unecessary to compromise compatibility.<BR><BR>With constant quality encoding, a nice side effect is that the encoding is faster because you don't need 2-passes. The video has the correct quality the first time instead of possibly having a scene that looks bad or have a movie that is uncessarily large because you tried to force it to a particular size.<BR><BR>I used to use 640x352 resolution but last night I tried 832x448 to be closer to keeping the full 480p and be mod32 to keep decoders happy. Yeah that meant I stretched 720 out to 832, but it also means I didn't go from 480p all the way down to 352 lines. I like the results better and it only cost an extra 100mb. So my encodes are now ~1GB per movie and don't significantly compromise quality or compatibility.<BR><BR>:edit, fixed typo/clarity
More options
ReportAdd bookmarkShare
papadage
Ars Legatus Legionis
- 41,542
Subscriptor++
Jun 14, 2008
- Jun 14, 2008
- Add bookmark
- #7
I rip using DVDFabPlatinum to folders, just removing alternate languages and the pre-menu stuff, like the FBI warning and commercials/trailers/studio splashes. They mount on the front end using My Movies in Vista Media Center.
More options
ReportAdd bookmarkShare
- Status
- Not open for further replies.
- Forums
- Audio/Visual Club
Jump to latestFollowReply
Jump to latestFollowReply